{"id":2433,"date":"2024-05-16T12:02:29","date_gmt":"2024-05-16T19:02:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/29deadpeople.com\/wp\/?page_id=2433"},"modified":"2024-07-28T12:28:47","modified_gmt":"2024-07-28T19:28:47","slug":"just-trust-me-on-this","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/29deadpeople.com\/wp\/?page_id=2433","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Just Trust Me On This\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/29deadpeople.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/redactingsources.pdf\">PDF VERSION<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\" style=\"text-align: right; color: #802003;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 14pt;\">Version: 6 May 2024<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 16pt;\">\u2018Just Trust Me On This\u2019<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\">Richard L. Tolman, Ph. D.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d;\">Richard L. Tolman, retired scientist\/executive: Ph. D. in DNA bio-medicinal chemistry (University of Utah, 1969) with more than 30 years experience in DNA-related problems and research\u2026and 20 years as a pro bono semi-professional genealogist\/researcher.<\/span><\/span><a class=\"tooltip\" href=\"#\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0The search for the <em>Truth<\/em> in genealogy depends upon <em>Proofs<\/em> and <em>Evidence<\/em>.\u00a0 <em>Proofs<\/em> and <em>Evidence<\/em> depend on <em>Sources<\/em> that can be checked, investigated and verified.\u00a0 A source that cannot be checked, investigated and verified is NOT a real source.\u00a0 In the words of evidence guru Elizabeth Shown Mills \u2018<em><u>Never, ever<\/u> should we expect a reader to just \u2018take our word\u2019 for whatever we assert<\/em>\u2019\u00a0 [Elizabeth Shown Mills <i> Evidence Explained <\/i>&#8216;QuickLesson 21, Citing DNA evidence&#8217;, underline added].\u00a0 If the genealogical publication includes redacted source names, the authors are saying \u2018Trust Me on This\u2019 with these citations that are not real sources.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0A committee of genealogists and lawyers in 2015 decided that to respect their privacy, the names of DNA owners should be redacted when their DNA is listed as a source.\u00a0 However, a redacted source does not fit the requirements of a source.\u00a0 What little sense redacting made in 2015 has since evaporated.\u00a0 Redacting the names of DNA owners for the sake of privacy makes no sense.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 28pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\"> (1) A redacted source is not a source at all since it is not verifiable by the reader. Pursuant to the Elizabeth Shown Mills quote above, if you redact the names of DNA owners, you are saying \u2018trust me on this\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 28pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\"> (2) Today (in 2024), named Ancestry<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433-2\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d;\">Ancestry is the preferred source for DNA matching since it has over 25 million trees to match, whereas other DNA sequence vendors have less than one-tenth that number or none.<\/span><\/span>\u00a0<a class=\"tooltip\" title=\"Ancestry is the preferred source for DNA matching since it has over 25 million trees to match, whereas other DNA sequence vendors have less than one-tenth that number or none.\" href=\"#\"><sup>2<\/sup><\/a> matches cannot be examined by anyone who is not a match for the named match (only cousins can examine a match\u2019s tree). And if one examines the match, only the individual\u2019s tree is viewable. This is no different than a \u2018person search\u2019 that points to a Public Tree on Ancestry. This is not deemed an invasion of privacy. Even if an Ancestry member has a private tree, \u2018ThruLines\u2019 can disclose a lineage in that tree if the Ancestry computer finds a Common Ancestor. For some, this information is behind a paywall at Ancestry, but similar trees are available at FamilySearch Family Tree which are not behind a paywall. An individual\u2019s raw DNA sequence is never available unless the owner gives permission.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 28pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\"> (3) There is also the unreasonable fear by some who believe this may prove the DNA owner has some horrible genetic disease. This also is nonsense. In their course of their work on the Human Genome Project around the turn of the century, Thomas Watson and Craig Venter had their entire genomes sequenced and released to the public. Although they both had \u2018dangerous genes\u2019 (linked to cancers or genetic disease), neither had any known genetic disorders or cancers as a result. The regulatory genes in every genome are tremendously sophisticated and are often ten times the length of the genes they regulate. Most cancers and genetic diseases have now been shown to require the simultaneous expression of multiple genes.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"3\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-000000000000019c0000000000000000_2433-3\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"3\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d;\">Lipkin, Steven Monroe The Age of Genomes: \u2018Tales from the front lines of genetic medicine\u2019. (Boston, Massachusetts: Beacon Press, 2016).<\/span><\/span><a class=\"tooltip\" title=\"Lipkin, Steven Monroe The Age of Genomes: \u2018Tales from the front lines of genetic medicine\u2019. (Boston, Massachusetts: Beacon Press, 2016).\" href=\"#\"><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 28pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\"> (4) It is normal to fear the unknown, but it is no longer 2015 and much more is known. It is a mistake to allow lawyers to flex their muscles and prevent the proper citation of DNA evidence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 28pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\">(5) The identity of the DNA owners of key matches (name only is available to a matching cousin) may aid the more ready identification of lawbreakers. As a teacher and pro bono researcher, I am a little tired of meeting people who believe their historical family cannot have had any \u2018difficulties\u2019 through the generations. Wake up! Every family has a horse thief or two and many have gone out of their way to conceal themselves from their future posterity. This is what makes genealogy a challenge. I do not think it is a bad thing to discover the truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 The time has come for genealogists to abandon this \u2018dog in the manger\u2019 approach to DNA sourcing (redacting names of DNA owners) in favor of citing real DNA sources in genealogical publications.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d; font-weight: bold;\">NOTES<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d;\">1. Richard L. Tolman, retired scientist\/executive: Ph. D. in DNA bio-medicinal chemistry (University of Utah, 1969) with more than 30 years experience in DNA-related problems and research\u2026and 20 years as a pro bono semi-professional genealogist\/researcher.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d;\">2. Ancestry is the preferred source for DNA matching since it has over 25 million trees to match, whereas other DNA sequence vendors have less than one-tenth that number or none.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"Normal\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Tahoma'; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 1.8; color: #1f497d;\">3. Lipkin, Steven Monroe The Age of Genomes: \u2018Tales from the front lines of genetic medicine\u2019. (Boston, Massachusetts: Beacon Press, 2016).<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PDF VERSION Version: 6 May 2024 \u2018Just Trust Me On This\u2019 Richard L. Tolman, Ph. 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